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How I handle injection day travel — looking for input

wendy_avl Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 10:31 PM 17 replies 1,653 viewsPage 2 of 4
NurseKim_ATL
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Feb 13, 2025 at 7:34 AM#6
pete_manc_UK said:
The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.

I read this differently from pete_manc_UK, on substance rather than tone. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Feb 13, 2025 at 8:46 PM#7
wendy_avl said:
I keep finding that the number in the press summary and the number in the paper are not the same number, and the difference is always in the same…

Bayesian meta-analysis perspective on the trial evidence: traditional frequentist meta-analyses report point estimates and confidence intervals. Bayesian approaches provide probability distributions that are more intuitive for clinical decision-making.

For example: "There is a 98.5% probability that semaglutide 2.4mg produces >10% weight loss vs placebo" is more actionable than "RR 3.4, 95% CI 2.8-4.1, p<0.001."

The the trial evidence evidence is strong under both frameworks, but Bayesian analysis better communicates the degree of certainty for individual patient counseling.

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Feb 14, 2025 at 9:58 AM#8
NurseKim_ATL said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.

Propensity score matching studies and the trial evidence: when RCTs aren't available for a specific question, propensity score-matched observational studies can provide useful evidence.

A recent PSM study of 18,000 GLP-1 users vs matched controls showed reduced stroke risk (HR 0.82) over 4 years of follow-up[1].

These results complement the RCT data and suggest the benefits translate to real-world populations.

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[1] Registry-based cohort study, pre-print 2024.
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Feb 14, 2025 at 11:09 PM#9

Following on from denise_HTX — and this may be the naive question:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

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Feb 17, 2025 at 2:26 PM#10

Reporting back.

Update — my curve sits below the published mean and the explanation is that the trial arm had support I do not have. That was reassuring rather than otherwise.

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