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Body dysmorphia after significant weight loss — need advice

Dr.RheumBOS Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 2:19 PM 54 replies 1,998 viewsPage 2 of 11
Dr.GutHealth
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Apr 27, 2025 at 8:13 AM#6
Dr.NateNeph said:
The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.

I read this differently from Dr.NateNeph, on substance rather than tone. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Apr 27, 2025 at 3:19 PM#7
Dr.RheumBOS said:
I keep finding that the number in the press summary and the number in the paper are not the same number, and the difference is always in the same…

Bayesian meta-analysis perspective on the trial evidence: traditional frequentist meta-analyses report point estimates and confidence intervals. Bayesian approaches provide probability distributions that are more intuitive for clinical decision-making.

For example: "There is a 98.5% probability that semaglutide 2.4mg produces >10% weight loss vs placebo" is more actionable than "RR 3.4, 95% CI 2.8-4.1, p<0.001."

The the trial evidence evidence is strong under both frameworks, but Bayesian analysis better communicates the degree of certainty for individual patient counseling.

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Apr 27, 2025 at 10:25 PM#8
Dr.GutHealth said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.
Dr.GutHealth said:
...regarding the trial evidence...

I think this is an underappreciated point. To expand on it with some data:

A recent meta-analysis of 15 RCTs (n=12,300) found that the trial evidence was associated with a clinically meaningful effect size across diverse patient populations[1].

The NNT was 12, which is comparable to antihypertensives for stroke reduction. That's a strong clinical argument for this approach.

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Apr 28, 2025 at 5:31 AM#9

One thing that is still open after Dr.EndoIndy’s answer:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

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Apr 29, 2025 at 3:38 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Update — my curve sits below the published mean and the explanation is that the trial arm had support I do not have. That was reassuring rather than otherwise.

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