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Injection site rotation systematic review — looking for input

tyler_CSCS Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 8:12 AM 17 replies 1,523 viewsPage 2 of 4
COA_Karl
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Jul 22, 2025 at 5:52 PM#6
InsuranceTom said:
Relative and absolute effects need reading together.

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Jul 23, 2025 at 7:20 AM#7

One concrete data point for the thread. A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

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Jul 23, 2025 at 8:48 PM#8
COA_Karl said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud. Trial participants get titration by protocol, scheduled contact, free drug and dietetic support; removing that infrastructure costs a few percentage points every time it has been measured. When your own curve sits below the published mean, that is the likeliest explanation before anything about you or your material.

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Jul 24, 2025 at 10:17 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How to read a result like this without either dismissing it or over-reading it, since the summaries all read like press releases?

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Jul 27, 2025 at 2:59 AM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Follow-up: I read the paper rather than the summary and the qualifier I was missing was in the second paragraph of the results.

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