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Danuglipron BID dosing — January 2024

chris_chi24 Thu, May 16, 2024 at 2:57 PM 6 replies 1,881 viewsPage 1 of 2
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chris_chi24
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May 16, 2024 at 2:57 PM#1

On 25mg oral, four months in, and my results are closer to the low-dose injectable arm than to the numbers being quoted for 50mg.

The practical numbers: about 1% oral bioavailability, 30 minutes fasted before food, no more than 120ml of plain water, and coffee counts as food for this purpose.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is whether the fasting requirement is as strict in practice as the label implies, and what people actually see when they get it wrong.

Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

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May 16, 2024 at 4:24 PM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to get there because almost none of the tablet is absorbed. The dose numbers are not comparable across routes and quoting them side by side confuses people.

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May 16, 2024 at 5:51 PM#3
Dr.ObesityMed said:
The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…

Agreeing with Dr.ObesityMed, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. Worth adding that the tablet is taken daily, so a missed dose costs far less than a missed weekly injection. That is a genuine advantage nobody lists.

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May 16, 2024 at 7:18 PM#4
chris_chi24 said:
On 25mg oral, four months in, and my results are closer to the low-dose injectable arm than to the numbers being quoted for 50mg.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Oral semaglutide is absorbed in the stomach with the help of SNAC, which locally raises pH and protects the peptide long enough to cross. That mechanism is fragile: bioavailability is roughly 1% and highly sensitive to gastric contents, so a mouthful of coffee genuinely changes the exposure. This is why the label wants 30 minutes and no more than half a glass of plain water.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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May 17, 2024 at 3:43 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it. The narrow version usually has an answer; the broad version usually does not, and answering the broad one is how a thread stops being useful.

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