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Oral GLP-1 adherence — 12 month update

patPC_UT Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 11:10 AM 46 replies 2,424 viewsPage 1 of 10
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patPC_UT
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Dec 17, 2024 at 11:10 AM#1

I switched from injectable to oral semaglutide for travel reasons and the fasting window is proving harder to hold than the injection ever was.

The practical numbers: about 1% oral bioavailability, 30 minutes fasted before food, no more than 120ml of plain water, and coffee counts as food for this purpose.

What I am after is how much of the oral variability is the SNAC absorption window and how much is dose, because the two get conflated constantly.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Dr.ReproEndo
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Dec 17, 2024 at 1:05 PM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all. Being a small molecule it does not need SNAC, does not need the fasting window, and has oral bioavailability in the tens of percent rather than about one.

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Dec 17, 2024 at 3:00 PM#3
Dr.ReproEndo said:
Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all.

Dr.ReproEndo has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. The absorption variability is real, but it partly averages out over weeks — the steady-state trough is less erratic than any single day would suggest. Where it bites is in the first fortnight, when people conclude the tablet does nothing.

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Dec 17, 2024 at 4:55 PM#4
patPC_UT said:
I switched from injectable to oral semaglutide for travel reasons and the fasting window is proving harder to hold than the injection ever was.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to get there because almost none of the tablet is absorbed. The dose numbers are not comparable across routes and quoting them side by side confuses people.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Dec 18, 2024 at 4:18 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. It helps to ask what evidence would change your mind before you look at any. If nothing would, the discussion is not about evidence, and it is better to say so early than to spend nine posts discovering it.

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