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Air fryer recipes thread — what worked for you?

Dr.NutriCornell Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:34 PM 58 replies 2,504 viewsPage 2 of 12
sarah.morrison
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Jul 23, 2024 at 11:12 PM#6
pete_manc_UK said:
Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation.
pete_manc_UK said:
...regarding food noise mechanism of action...

To build on this — the mechanism is more complex than "it makes you less hungry." GLP-1 agonists:

  1. Activate hypothalamic satiety centers (appetite reduction)
  2. Delay gastric emptying (prolonged fullness)
  3. Potentiate glucose-dependent insulin secretion
  4. Suppress glucagon secretion
  5. Modulate reward pathway dopaminergic signaling
  6. Reduce hepatic lipogenesis
  7. Have direct cardiovascular protective effects

It's a multi-target drug with systemic metabolic effects. Understanding the mechanism helps us predict and manage side effects.

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Jul 24, 2024 at 11:00 AM#7
Dr.NutriCornell said:
The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was…

Central vs peripheral GLP-1R signaling in food noise: elegant studies using brain-penetrant vs peripherally-restricted GLP-1 agonists show that ~80% of the weight loss effect is centrally mediated[1].

The key brain regions: arcuate nucleus (appetite), area postrema (nausea), NTS (satiety), VTA/NAc (reward). Peripheral effects (gastric emptying, insulin secretion) contribute but are secondary for weight loss.

This has implications for next-gen drugs: optimizing brain penetration and CNS receptor occupancy may be more important than systemic exposure.

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[1] Secher A, et al. J Clin Invest. 2014;124(10):4473-4488.
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Jul 24, 2024 at 10:48 PM#8
sarah.morrison said:
pete_manc_UK said: ...regarding food noise mechanism of action...

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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Jul 25, 2024 at 10:36 AM#9

Following on from hannah_MT — and this may be the naive question:

What would you measure differently if you were starting again?

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Jul 27, 2024 at 7:13 PM#10
Dr.SleepRoch said:
Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back.

Neuroscience perspective on food noise:

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area postrema, and — critically — the mesolimbic reward pathway[1].

This is directly relevant to food noise because the central effects of GLP-1 agonists extend far beyond simple appetite suppression. The reduction in "food noise" that patients describe is likely mediated by modulation of dopaminergic signaling in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.

The emerging data on reduced addictive behaviors (alcohol, gambling) further supports this mechanism. food noise should be understood in this broader neurobiological context.

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[1] Merchenthaler I, et al. J Comp Neurol. 1999;403(2):261-280.
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