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Type 1.5 diabetes (LADA) and GLP-1 — what worked for you?

pete_manc_UK Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 5:43 AM 36 replies 2,172 viewsPage 1 of 8
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pete_manc_UK
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Mar 16, 2025 at 5:43 AM#1

Fasting glucose improved within weeks and my HbA1c barely moved for three months, which I now understand and did not at the time.

The question I want answered is why A1C lags the way it does, and what to look at in the meantime if you want to know sooner.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Mar 16, 2025 at 5:53 AM#2
pete_manc_UK said:
Fasting glucose improved within weeks and my HbA1c barely moved for three months, which I now understand and did not at the time.

Fasting insulin is the lab my functional medicine doctor cares about most for glycaemic control: it's a much earlier marker of metabolic dysfunction than glucose or A1C.

My fasting insulin: 23 → 15 → 5 uIU/mL over 9 months. Target is <7. By the time your fasting glucose is elevated, your insulin has been elevated for YEARS trying to compensate.

Ask your doctor to include fasting insulin in your bloodwork panel. It's cheap (~$20) and incredibly informative.

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Mar 16, 2025 at 6:03 AM#3
Dr.PainCLE said:
Fasting insulin is the lab my functional medicine doctor cares about most for glycaemic control: it's a much earlier marker of metabolic dysfunction…

Patient selection optimization for glycaemic control: emerging predictive biomarkers for GLP-1 agonist response include:

BiomarkerAssociationEvidence Level
Baseline BMIHigher BMI → greater absolute weight lossStrong
Fasting insulinHigher insulin → better responseModerate
GLP1R gene variantsrs6923761 → variable responsePreliminary
Baseline hsCRPHigher CRP → greater CV benefitModerate
Early weight loss (4 wk)≥3% at 4 wks → strong predictor of ≥10% at 68 wksStrong

The 4-week early responder criterion is the most clinically actionable: if you haven't lost ≥3% by week 4 at a therapeutic dose, discuss optimization strategies with your provider.

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Mar 16, 2025 at 6:13 AM#4
pete_manc_UK said:
Fasting glucose improved within weeks and my HbA1c barely moved for three months, which I now understand and did not at the time.

Same experience, arrived at from the opposite direction.

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Mar 16, 2025 at 7:03 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Insulin sensitivity test (HOMA-IR) on glycaemic control — arguably the most important metabolic marker most people aren't tracking:

HOMA-IR = (fasting insulin × fasting glucose) ÷ 405

My numbers: Baseline HOMA-IR = 5.5 (insulin resistant) → Current = 1.3 (insulin sensitive)

Anything above 2.0 indicates insulin resistance. The goal is below 1.5. GLP-1 agonists address the root metabolic dysfunction, not just the symptoms. This is why they work so much better than calorie restriction alone.

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