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⚠ Telegram scammers impersonating WWB and QSC — looking for input

pete_nash Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:14 AM 16 replies 2,334 viewsPage 1 of 4
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pete_nash
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Jan 24, 2024 at 7:14 AM#1

Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

What I am after is what a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Dr.SurgeonPGH
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Jan 24, 2024 at 7:56 AM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 8:38 AM#3
Dr.SurgeonPGH said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Agreed, with a caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator. Reports arrive weeks after orders, so a supplier can look excellent for a month after quality has already changed.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 9:20 AM#4
pete_nash said:
Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 1:13 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Vendor reputation tracking for vendor vetting: I maintain a personal spreadsheet with every order I've placed — date, vendor, batch number, Janoshik result, personal efficacy assessment (1-5 scale), and any issues.

After 22 orders across 4 vendors: average purity 97.2%, zero sterility concerns, 2 shipping issues (all resolved). This data gives me confidence in my current source and documentation if issues arise.

I encourage everyone to track their orders systematically. Community data aggregation makes us all safer.

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