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mike_mod Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 6:46 AM 9 replies 985 viewsPage 1 of 2
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Dec 28, 2025 at 6:46 AM#1

A reference post rather than a discussion. Corrections are the point; I would rather this be right than mine. It is about food noise, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background computation about food that most people with obesity live with and most people without it do not believe exists. GLP-1 agonism reduces the salience of food cues in the reward pathway rather than simply reducing hunger, which is why the reported experience is silence rather than willpower. It is also why its return on dose reduction is the first thing people notice, well before the weight moves.

The condition it depends on

It is worth naming the loss side of it. Food was a source of pleasure and structure, and its removal can leave a gap that people are not prepared for.

What I am not sure about

What I am after is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules. If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Dec 28, 2025 at 8:16 AM#2
mike_mod said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

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Dec 28, 2025 at 9:46 AM#3
mike_mod said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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Dec 28, 2025 at 11:16 AM#4
julia.endo said:
Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back.
julia.endo said:
...regarding food noise mechanism of action...

To build on this — the mechanism is more complex than "it makes you less hungry." GLP-1 agonists:

  1. Activate hypothalamic satiety centers (appetite reduction)
  2. Delay gastric emptying (prolonged fullness)
  3. Potentiate glucose-dependent insulin secretion
  4. Suppress glucagon secretion
  5. Modulate reward pathway dopaminergic signaling
  6. Reduce hepatic lipogenesis
  7. Have direct cardiovascular protective effects

It's a multi-target drug with systemic metabolic effects. Understanding the mechanism helps us predict and manage side effects.

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Dec 28, 2025 at 8:00 PM#5
mike.trainer_LA said:
Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation.

Mine went the same way, slower. Posting only so the count is not one.

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