BariatricNurseD said:Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. I will report back once I have actually tried it.
BariatricNurseD said:Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. I will report back once I have actually tried it.
Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.
Dr.EndoIndy said:Steady state is the thing most people miss.
Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. The trial means are being read too generously in this thread. STEP populations were selected, supported, and titrated by protocol, and the real-world curves are consistently a few points worse. That difference is not noise, it is what happens when you remove the study infrastructure.
Happy to go further on any of that.
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View ResultsAdding the numbers, since they settle part of this. If you are comparing against somebody else’s result, check that you are comparing the same measurement taken the same way. Most of the apparent contradictions in these threads dissolve at that step.