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Enteroendocrine L-cell biology — 12 month update

Dr.BariatricHTX Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 9:57 PM 39 replies 2,469 viewsPage 1 of 8
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Dr.BariatricHTX
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Mar 15, 2025 at 9:57 PM#1

Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience both.

What would genuinely help is knowing which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Mar 15, 2025 at 10:13 PM#2
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

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[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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Mar 15, 2025 at 10:29 PM#3
RetaRick_CA said:
Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest…

No disagreement with RetaRick_CA. One condition attached. The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here. Albumin binding above 99% slows clearance enough to make weekly dosing possible; a terminal half-life near a week means four to five weeks to steady state and therefore a four-week titration interval; subcutaneous bioavailability around 89% means injection site barely matters. Those three facts answer most timing questions before they are asked.

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Mar 15, 2025 at 10:45 PM#4
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…

Adding a me-too, because a thread of one person's experience is not much use. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Mar 16, 2025 at 12:08 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36). Three key modifications enable its pharmacokinetic profile:

  1. Aib8 substitution: DPP-4 resistance (prevents enzymatic degradation)
  2. Arg34 substitution: improved chemical stability
  3. C18 fatty diacid at Lys26: albumin binding → long half-life

These three modifications transform a peptide with a 2-minute half-life (native GLP-1) into one with a 168-hour half-life (semaglutide). A masterclass in peptide engineering.

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