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SURPASS-CVOT: tirzepatide cardiovascular outcomes trial design — need advice

GenomicsKate Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 11:59 AM 29 replies 1,587 viewsPage 4 of 6
tony_orlando
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Jan 12, 2026 at 2:27 AM#16
LindaRN_retired said:
Dose-response modeling for tirzepatide: Emax model fitting to the STEP/SURMOUNT dose-finding data shows: Semaglutide: ED50 ≈ 0.6mg, Emax ≈ -18%, Hill…

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. Nothing to add that would improve it.

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Jan 13, 2026 at 5:10 AM#17
labquiet_amy said:
One habit that pays for itself: post the method alongside the number.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. This treats a plausible mechanism as a demonstrated one. Plausible is where you start looking, not where you stop.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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Jan 14, 2026 at 7:53 AM#18
labquiet_amy said:
One habit that pays for itself: post the method alongside the number.

That holds where the measurement is reliable. Where it is noisy — and a lot of what gets tracked here is noisy — the same reasoning produces confident nonsense.

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Jan 15, 2026 at 10:35 AM#19
labquiet_amy said:
One habit that pays for itself: post the method alongside the number.

Thank you for spelling out the reasoning rather than just the conclusion. Taking it to my next appointment.

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