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⚠ Fake COAs — looking for input

mark_tokyo Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 2:58 AM 17 replies 1,625 viewsPage 1 of 4
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Aug 8, 2025 at 2:58 AM#1

Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: whether a purity figure and a content figure can disagree without one of them being wrong.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Dr.RaviCardio
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Aug 8, 2025 at 3:08 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The provenance questions are more useful than the numbers. Does the report name the batch on your vial. Is the date consistent with when that batch existed. Is it addressed to the vendor or to the person who paid for the test. Was the sample taken from general stock or supplied by the vendor. A perfect certificate for a different batch is worth nothing, and vendor-supplied samples are the most common way a genuine report ends up misleading.

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Aug 8, 2025 at 3:18 AM#3
Dr.RaviCardio said:
The provenance questions are more useful than the numbers.

Agreeing with Dr.RaviCardio, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. One addition: an unstated method makes a report close to uninterpretable. "99% pure" without the technique, the standard and the conditions is a claim, not a measurement.

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Aug 8, 2025 at 3:28 AM#4
mark_tokyo said:
Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself calibrated, the gradient and column, the detection wavelength, and where the integration baseline was drawn. A percentage point or two between competent labs is expected. What is not expected is a large gap, and the usual explanation there is that one report is not of the batch in your hand.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

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Aug 8, 2025 at 4:18 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Vendor quality matters when discussing certificates of analysis. I've tested my last 5 batches through Janoshik and purity has ranged from 97.2% to 99.2%. Consistency is key.

For anyone new: always request the COA, and consider independent verification. The $300 for a Janoshik test is worth the peace of mind.

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