Blacklisted vendor compilation — updated June 2026

VanRx_Mike said:

The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.

Coming at VanRx_Mike’s question from a different direction. It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false. If nothing would look different, it is not a claim about the world and no amount of discussion will settle it.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

One concrete data point for the thread. Worth stating the units and the reference range whenever you post a number here. A large fraction of the apparent disagreement in these threads is two people using different units and both being right.

One thing that is still open after VanRx_Mike’s answer:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

bri_stats said:

Worth stating the units and the reference range whenever you post a number here.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. Pushing back on the anecdote-stacking. Twenty people reporting the same thing is twenty samples from the same self-selected pool, not twenty independent confirmations.

bri_stats said:

Worth stating the units and the reference range whenever you post a number here.

That is right for the common case. Whether it is right for the case being asked about depends on a detail that has not been given.