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This vendor ghosted me after I paid, anyone else?? — my results so far

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lucas_SP_BR
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Jul 16, 2025 at 4:14 AM#21

Following on from PharmD_Rodriguez — and this may be the naive question:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

Last edited: Jul 16, 2025 at 6:14 AM
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Dr.CardioMD
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Jul 17, 2025 at 3:20 AM#22
Dr.PulmRoch said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. Not convinced. The evidence being cited is consistent with the conclusion and also consistent with two other conclusions nobody has ruled out.

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TrialNerd_Beth
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Jul 18, 2025 at 2:27 AM#23
Dr.PulmRoch said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

Correct as far as it goes. The part it does not cover is what to do when the honest answer is "not enough data", which is more often than anyone likes.

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Jul 19, 2025 at 1:34 AM#24
Dr.PulmRoch said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Adding it to my notes with a link back to this thread.

Last edited: Jul 19, 2025 at 7:34 AM
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Jul 20, 2025 at 12:42 AM#25

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. Order of operations matters more than any single choice here: establish a baseline, change one thing, wait long enough for it to express itself, then measure again under the same conditions.

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