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Digestive enzyme supplementation — May 2025

MounjBrad Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 7:50 AM 4 replies 1,029 viewsPage 1 of 1
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MounjBrad
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Nov 25, 2025 at 7:50 AM#1

My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat more.

The arithmetic that makes it tractable: reference weight in kg times 1.6 gives the target; divide by four for a per-sitting figure; then find four foods that hit that figure in a volume you can actually finish. Most people need two of the four to be liquid or semi-liquid early on.

What I actually want to know is whether the RDA is the wrong reference entirely during rapid weight loss, and what the actual target should be.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Nov 25, 2025 at 8:04 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie. Isolate powders, Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese, egg whites, lean fish, and tinned tuna all deliver a lot of protein in a small physical volume. Front-load it: appetite is usually least suppressed in the first hours after waking and worst on the day or two after dosing, so get the majority in early in the day and early in the week.

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Nov 25, 2025 at 8:18 AM#3
Dr.PainCLE said:
On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie.

Agreed on the target, with the caveat that reference weight and current weight are different numbers. Using current weight at the start of a large loss produces a target that is both unachievable and unnecessary.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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Nov 25, 2025 at 8:32 AM#4
MounjBrad said:
My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

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Nov 25, 2025 at 9:44 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass252 lbs222 lbs219 lbs
Fat mass122 lbs72 lbs54 lbs
Lean mass160 lbs147 lbs156 lbs
Body fat %45%33%23%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.4g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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