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Structure-function of tirzepatide — May 2025

lucas_SP_BR Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 6:25 AM 5 replies 1,553 viewsPage 1 of 1
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lucas_SP_BR
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Mar 5, 2025 at 6:25 AM#1

Fourteen months on tirzepatide, currently 10mg, and I stopped escalating because 10mg is doing the job and 15mg made me feel flat rather than full.

What I am after is whether anyone has held 10mg long term rather than climbing, and what happened over the following year.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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Mar 5, 2025 at 7:19 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. Steady state is faster than people expect: half-life about five days, so you are at plateau in roughly three to four weeks rather than five. That matters when you are deciding whether a dose step has finished expressing itself.

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Mar 5, 2025 at 8:13 AM#3
LipidDoc_ATL said:
Steady state is faster than people expect: half-life about five days, so you are at plateau in roughly three to four weeks rather than five.

Agreed on the mechanism, with the caveat that the head-to-head used semaglutide 1mg, not 2.4mg. It is still the best direct evidence available, but it is not the comparison most people think they are citing.

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Mar 5, 2025 at 9:07 AM#4
lucas_SP_BR said:
Fourteen months on tirzepatide, currently 10mg, and I stopped escalating because 10mg is doing the job and 15mg made me feel flat rather than full.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. SURMOUNT-1 landed around 20.9% mean weight loss at 15mg over 72 weeks, against roughly 15% for semaglutide 2.4mg in STEP 1. Different trials, different populations, so the comparison is indicative rather than decisive — but SURPASS-2 was a genuine head-to-head and it pointed the same way.

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Mar 5, 2025 at 2:13 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Dose-response modeling for tirzepatide: Emax model fitting to the STEP/SURMOUNT dose-finding data shows:

Semaglutide: ED50 ≈ 0.6mg, Emax ≈ -18%, Hill coefficient ≈ 1.3
Tirzepatide: ED50 ≈ 6mg, Emax ≈ -25%, Hill coefficient ≈ 1.5

Clinical implication: most patients achieve >80% of maximal response by the mid-range dose (1.7mg sema, 10mg tirz). Going to the maximum dose provides diminishing returns — possibly not worth the additional side effect burden for some patients. Individualize dosing based on response vs tolerability.

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